lef
Recently Liberated Territory
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Post by lef on Apr 22, 2015 14:35:55 GMT -5
Short introduction:
In the Holy Empire of L E F slavery is legal, it's part of its history, traditions and customs. Around 55% of the population residing in L E F are slaves. Slavery in L E F is not based on race, gender, religion or ethnicity and is best described as chattel slavery.
The issue at hand:
From time to time slaves escape L E F territory and seek refuge in other countries. L E F officials, through diplomatic channels, always appeal and demand that the refugees be returned to their owners.
How does your nation react to L E F's slavery position and refugee issue?
Purpose: I want to see where the nations of the region stand on this and based on that I'm going to make a list and rank them on how good our relations are.
NOTES: Please note that slavery in L E F has always been legal, we are not announcing that we're introducing it or something.
Examples of reactions I'm looking for:
1. As moral landscape has shifted the last century or so, country N and L E F relations have grown more cold because of the issue. Today nation N doesn't even have an embassy in the LEF capital because of the slavery issue.
Naturally country N will never returned fugitive slaves back to LEF.
Result:--- relation with L E F
2. Nation Y, despite popular resentment to the practice, pretends the practice doesn't exist in order to preserve good commercial relations. Fugitive slaves are not returned, why would they since slavery doesn't exist?
Result: mixed (no change)
3. Nation Z doesn't tolerate L E F's slavery publicly but, in order to maintain good relations, secretly deports fugitive slaves back for technical reasons (lack of visa etc).
Result: + relation with L E F
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alpsol
Flyover state
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Post by alpsol on Apr 22, 2015 15:39:01 GMT -5
I see
My nation accepts all ,provided you follow and accept our laws, and slavery has banned from the beginning
If such slaves are coming to my country for they will be accepted and defended. No my nation shall not return any slaves. I hope that this does not cause a divide between us.
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Post by Raijinshi on Apr 22, 2015 16:09:52 GMT -5
The raijinshi would react with practicality
Entrance to the Raijinshi requires a skills test; if they pass the test for whatever factor, than they would become a citizen and not returned.
If they fail the test theyd be imprisoned for trying to illegally cross the border. At that point if you pay a small ransom fee theyd be returned
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Post by gottimhimmelct on Apr 22, 2015 16:27:11 GMT -5
The Holy Empire of Gott im Himmel Colonial Territories will, and always will accept refugees of slavery. All men are entitled to God-given rights and any escaped slaves fleeing here will be granted full rights. We will defend this stance with force if necessary.
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nativich
Recently Liberated Territory
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Post by nativich on Apr 22, 2015 16:34:25 GMT -5
The Empire of Nativich believes that slavery is a form form of barbarism and is not accepted in a modern society. When the news struck that L E F was still practicing slavery people were shocked and The Empire of Nativich has now set apart land and transportation for the refugees. Nativich accepts all and we will also defend this stance with force.
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alpsol
Flyover state
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Post by alpsol on Apr 22, 2015 18:00:08 GMT -5
The Holy Empire of Gott im Himmel Colonial Territories will, and always will accept refugees of slavery. All men are entitled to God-given rights and any escaped slaves fleeing here will be granted full rights. We will defend this stance with force if necessary. Heh I like you alot more Gott If you or nativish ever need help defensively ill help yah ^_^ |
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Post by Githoniel on Apr 23, 2015 6:18:02 GMT -5
This thread should probably be moved as none of it is in character.
That said, Githoniel condemns slavery and those who practise it. The empire is willing to harbour refugees and defend them.
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Post by Ventalia on Apr 23, 2015 10:54:07 GMT -5
The Kingdom of Ventalia wholeheartedly condemns LEF's policy of slavery. Ventalia ascribes to fundamental beliefs in human dignity and self-determination; slavery strips the victims of their consent. While Ventalia and LEF currently do not maintain diplomatic recognition, Ventalia nonetheless recognizes LEF as a state that must provide a reasonable level of security for its peoples.
The Kingdom of Ventalia actively accepts refugees from LEF and does not submit to LEF demands of repatriation. Indeed, this government actively engages back-channels to disrupt the slave trade and escort victims of slavery to safe destinations.
Mod edit: Moved to Domestic Affairs as this primarily revolves around reactions to internal policy, not reactions to foreign policy.
Let's also try to stay on topic with our responses. Speak on behalf of your nation, not yourself. In other words, responses should be in character from either an official diplomatic response or in terms of how your nation feels and how it relates to OP's question/proposition, much like F&NI on the NS forum. If you must speak OOCly, please italicize the text and add "OOC:" in front of it, much as I have done with this "Mod edit"
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dokneenn
Recently Liberated Territory
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Post by dokneenn on Apr 24, 2015 10:46:31 GMT -5
The nation of Dokneenn hates slavery we believe it invades the right of being human you shouldn't have to work for other people in horrible conditions for little to no pay. But despite this we will respect it but just remember this will leave high tensions between each other.
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Post by Raijinshi on Apr 24, 2015 14:06:04 GMT -5
You seem to have the wrong idea.
Slavery is not ALWAYS in horrible conditions. Dont make assumptions, he has yet to state the treatment of slaves. There have been times in history where slavery was beneficial to the slaves since it saved them from the horrible conditions they had to haveing a shelter, steady food and water. They may not have healthcare or most medicine but they might bot be beaten as everyone assumes when slavery is mentioned. Slavery is usually NOT always bad. In few cases when its employed well its good. Its possible LEF's is one of these good scenarios.
Thank you,
Raijin
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nativich
Recently Liberated Territory
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Post by nativich on Apr 24, 2015 18:00:27 GMT -5
Restricting someone's rites is a sin and even if they were treated better than most they were still seen and sold as property and a moden society should not stand for this. SLAVERY IS ALWAYS BAD
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Post by aszakaeria on Apr 24, 2015 18:01:31 GMT -5
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Post by thenorthernkingdoms on Apr 24, 2015 22:31:57 GMT -5
The Northern Kingdoms, or the Northern Kingdom Colonies (which, by the way, is independent of the Northern Kingdoms, but accepts the Northern Kingdom monarch as its monarch) accept slave refugees, but to be a citizen, they are subject to immigration laws.
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Post by gottimhimmelct on Apr 24, 2015 22:46:29 GMT -5
I stand with Aszakaeria. No trade shall be done with LEF. Escaped slaves will be given free and open quarter. Given LEF does not disband its evil institution of slavery, force will be considered.
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Post by rightlessness on Apr 26, 2015 8:23:52 GMT -5
I would like to denounce Lef's use of slavery. The proletariat masses will one day rise against Lef. Communists across the world must rise up! Let Lef be the example!
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