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Post by thenorthernkingdoms on May 21, 2015 23:20:59 GMT -5
"For so long, Dalinar City has been an plutocratic city and has had a bad case of classism, with the 99% majority, called paupers (because they are generally poor), being treated relatively poorly, to the point that they are not added to national statistics, and the 1% minority, called the gentry, wield 99% of the wealth and power of Dalinar. After many pleas to the government from paupers who escaped the slums or became gentry members, the government has began to suspect whether the gentry was telling them "all is well" in Dalinar. Apparently, they were right to doubt the gentry when they discovered the pauper slums. The next course of action from the government was obvious: Condemn the gentry and support the paupers. With that, most, if not all, pauper members united and revolted against the gentry of Dalinar. While the government supports them, their support is limited, as they have other affairs to attend to. With that, the paupers ask for support from outside sources, during and after the revolution." Is this good?
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Post by Githoniel on May 22, 2015 0:48:54 GMT -5
I assume you mean whether or not the claim "all is well" is true, as we assume that of course the gentry are saying it. How long? Fifty years? Two hundred? A thousand? I know that the Occupy movement would like you to believe that 1% of people control 99% of the wealth, but even in the least equal country it's about 35% of the wealth. If you consider Dalinar to have 100 people and a GDP of $100,000, then one guy has 99,000 and everyone else has $1.01, which isn't enough to eat, or live, even in a slum. Now 99% of the power is a whole different ball-game, and much more likely in a situation like this. How robust is the government support? Food supplies? Arming them? Are they robbing the gentry? Instituting new tax rates? Also, you might want to clarify that their and they is referring to the government, not the paupers. Also, how are the gentry responding? If I made billions on the back of paupers and there was a revolution, I'd be looking for a nation with a non-extradition treaty and favourable tax policies. (In real life, note the examples of billionaires living in the Caribbean.) If it hasn't been illegal, then I'm safe from my own government, theoretically - you can't force me to be charitable, all you can do is increase the tax rates to an extreme degree, at which point I simply use my financial assets to expatriate. It does sound like a marvellous idea, but these are just some points to help sharpen and clarify the background of Dalinar as it stands, so that folks can start RP with a more concrete idea about the situation.
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Post by thenorthernkingdoms on May 22, 2015 5:27:46 GMT -5
I assume you mean whether or not the claim "all is well" is true, as we assume that of course the gentry are saying it. How long? Fifty years? Two hundred? A thousand? I know that the Occupy movement would like you to believe that 1% of people control 99% of the wealth, but even in the least equal country it's about 35% of the wealth. If you consider Dalinar to have 100 people and a GDP of $100,000, then one guy has 99,000 and everyone else has $1.01, which isn't enough to eat, or live, even in a slum. Now 99% of the power is a whole different ball-game, and much more likely in a situation like this. How robust is the government support? Food supplies? Arming them? Are they robbing the gentry? Instituting new tax rates? Also, you might want to clarify that their and they is referring to the government, not the paupers. Also, how are the gentry responding? If I made billions on the back of paupers and there was a revolution, I'd be looking for a nation with a non-extradition treaty and favourable tax policies. (In real life, note the examples of billionaires living in the Caribbean.) If it hasn't been illegal, then I'm safe from my own government, theoretically - you can't force me to be charitable, all you can do is increase the tax rates to an extreme degree, at which point I simply use my financial assets to expatriate. It does sound like a marvellous idea, but these are just some points to help sharpen and clarify the background of Dalinar as it stands, so that folks can start RP with a more concrete idea about the situation. 1. "All is well" is a cover-up by the gentry. 2. How long? Since 1337. 3. Yeah, it's an exaggeration (on the wealth). But on the power, it's true. 4. The government gives monetary support to the paupers. While redirected funds to the gentry is inevitable, the paupers try to avoid that by making sure the government give the funds to the trusted paupers (a.k.a. representatives chosen by the paupers). And to that extent, the government is raising taxes towards the gentry. The gentry is trying to put the tax burden towards the paupers, but at this point, there would be civil disobedience, and, as for the detention camp, they will use the funds for armaments when necessary. All in all, you are correct, the idea is vague. But hey, this is planning after all, and it is not yet set in stone! Thanks, Githoniel, for helping me solidify the RP.
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